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so is chuck hagel. i have been at denver's -- eye was the emcee at the nixon senator's dinner -- nixon center's dinner honoring john kyl. chuck hagel was in the room. this is not a war between people. we often over-emphasize these questions of division. these are real debates. this is why we have the capital behind us to have these major discussions. chuck hagel, i think, it was a proud moment. he demonstrated an independence of thought and questioning that i think was vital for the country. host: i want to go to something you said. in terms of what the president said about iraq and afghanistan, saying iraq was the war of choice, afghanistan was a war of necessity. in your view, though, was iraq necessary? if so, why? what did we accomplish? guest: we have not accomplished all that much. it is a debatable question. it depends on a lot of factors that are out of my control. we should not forget that we did get rid of saddam hussein. it was a terrible tyrant to his people and a danger to the region. there
so is chuck hagel. i have been at denver's -- eye was the emcee at the nixon senator's dinner -- nixon center's dinner honoring john kyl. chuck hagel was in the room. this is not a war between people. we often over-emphasize these questions of division. these are real debates. this is why we have the capital behind us to have these major discussions. chuck hagel, i think, it was a proud moment. he demonstrated an independence of thought and questioning that i think was vital for the country....
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chuck hagel said it, boom. he also said one time as united states senator, my number one job is to represent what's best for the people of the united states of america. not the government of israel. they're criticizing him for that. i gotta tell you something any united states senator who says the opposite is a traitor right? >> good point! >> bill: yeah, the other thing, this is real personal with me because jim hormel is one of my best friends. he was our ambassador to luxembourg. he was the first openly gay ambassador. appointed by president clinton in 1998. i was at the state department when jim hormel was sworn in bid a lynn albright -- by madeleine albright and tim wu, his partner was there when he was sworn in. we were all in tears watching that historic moment. at the time, chuck hagel said he didn't deserve to be ambassador because he was openly gay and that sent the wrong message. he wouldn't be able to represent all of the people of the united states. i resent that he said that. he was dead wrong but
chuck hagel said it, boom. he also said one time as united states senator, my number one job is to represent what's best for the people of the united states of america. not the government of israel. they're criticizing him for that. i gotta tell you something any united states senator who says the opposite is a traitor right? >> good point! >> bill: yeah, the other thing, this is real personal with me because jim hormel is one of my best friends. he was our ambassador to luxembourg....
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the big story tonight is the president's nomination of chuck hagel. i think the fair thing to do is to give this nomination a solid chance. let's see if he's the kind of person to give this enormous responsibility. personally, i think the attacks on him have been pushed hard by the right wing. the right wing doesn't like his approach to military action. they're raring to go. he's restrained, skeptical of what war can achieve, like anwar sadat, yitzhak rabin. the g.i.s have to do the actual fighting. so when you watch the hearings, think of the americans out there on post tonight all alone in a place far from home. give some thought to the possibility they'd like to have a pentagon chief who knows just what that's like. and that's "hardball for now," thanks for being with us. the ed show with ed schultz starts right now. >> good evening and welcome to new york. the republicans are whining about the president's choice for defense secretary. tonight a reminder of who won the election and why this is the perfect guy. let's get to work. >> chuck hagel is t
the big story tonight is the president's nomination of chuck hagel. i think the fair thing to do is to give this nomination a solid chance. let's see if he's the kind of person to give this enormous responsibility. personally, i think the attacks on him have been pushed hard by the right wing. the right wing doesn't like his approach to military action. they're raring to go. he's restrained, skeptical of what war can achieve, like anwar sadat, yitzhak rabin. the g.i.s have to do the actual...
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host: chuck hagel. then-senator barack obama and chuck hagel traveling to the middle east. hagel co talks about the limits of power. guest: one of the conditions that president obama and his team said, a lot of demands and expectations around the world. a lot of challenges. america's role is to not challenge the foes, but to be dependable for the allies. i think one of the real challenges is when you think strategically. when you had the middle east crisis, you had rising problems with north korea. that is what chuck hagel is talking about. you need to figure out how, given the limitations, it can matter in certain places. that is a realistic assessment. part of the role of the united states is to go into the interior to redesign and so there are less a threat to the united states. when you have limited power, it makes someone like chuck tickle very skeptical of the ability of the united states to do that -- chuck hagel very skeptical of the ability of united states to do that. when he traveled with president obama, a think this was part of this discussion. host: what relat
host: chuck hagel. then-senator barack obama and chuck hagel traveling to the middle east. hagel co talks about the limits of power. guest: one of the conditions that president obama and his team said, a lot of demands and expectations around the world. a lot of challenges. america's role is to not challenge the foes, but to be dependable for the allies. i think one of the real challenges is when you think strategically. when you had the middle east crisis, you had rising problems with north...
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for chuck hagel. >> let's just point out that we were -- when you see a picture of the east room of the white house, the press corps awaiting, right now hamid karzai and president obama are having lunch, and when they come out, we were told it would be at 1:15. if they come out, they will each make statements and answer questions. clearly the president is also going to be asked about domestic issues. i would suspect guns given that that is one of the prime issues that the white house is dealing with right now as joe biden continues meetings on the gun issue today. chris alissa, when we talk about president obama and what he is facing in changing his team, when david gregory asked on "meet the press" about hagel, and i think we all expected that the number three democrat in the senate would say, okay, great choice. he said, well, not so much. we'll have to wait to see what happens at the hearing, or something like that. chuck todd and i were sitting at the table on "meet the press" and said whoa. >> we
for chuck hagel. >> let's just point out that we were -- when you see a picture of the east room of the white house, the press corps awaiting, right now hamid karzai and president obama are having lunch, and when they come out, we were told it would be at 1:15. if they come out, they will each make statements and answer questions. clearly the president is also going to be asked about domestic issues. i would suspect guns given that that is one of the prime issues that the white house is...
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the big story tonight is the pthd's nomination of chuck hagel. i think the fairest thing to do is to give this nomination a solid chance. let's see if he's the kind of person to give this enormous responsibility. personally, i think the attacks on him have been pushed hard by the right wing. he's restrained, skeptical. i am to like him for this reason, like dwight eisenhower. hagel knows the reality of war, not from the top but from the mud level. the g.i.s have to do the actual fighting. so when you watch the hearings, think of the americans out there on post tonight all alone in a place far from home. give some thought to the possibility they'd like to have a pentagon chief who knows just what that's like. and that's "hardball for now," thanks for being with us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, chris. and thanks to you fr tuning in. tonight's lead show down over defense. today, the president officially nominated his choice for defense secretary. vietnam veteran and former gop senator chuck hagel of nebraska. alrea
the big story tonight is the pthd's nomination of chuck hagel. i think the fairest thing to do is to give this nomination a solid chance. let's see if he's the kind of person to give this enormous responsibility. personally, i think the attacks on him have been pushed hard by the right wing. he's restrained, skeptical. i am to like him for this reason, like dwight eisenhower. hagel knows the reality of war, not from the top but from the mud level. the g.i.s have to do the actual fighting. so...
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chuck hagel would be a good fit. i do not see chuck hagel as an easy yes or no. he is a little more complex than that. host: how many allies does chuck hagel have in the senate? guest: when i worked in the senate there was often an occasion where you see senators walk-in, saw the other senators, walked up to them whether they are republican or democrat and started chatting in a collegial relationship. suggest there is anything wrong with this. others would keep their distance and spend more time with their staff. i gather some hagel was one of those. they are not natural senate people. it does not mean they do not have friends. but they do not have a great deal of warm ties. host: joe biden is not a senate person? guest: he grew into one. it wasbefore he had here. hagel's personal ties are limited. in terms of republican support, i think it is nonexistent. we will see what happens in the hearings. i do not think it will be voting for him. him because of friendship. host: you can listen to all of the confirmation hearings on c- span. we're talking with steve clemo
chuck hagel would be a good fit. i do not see chuck hagel as an easy yes or no. he is a little more complex than that. host: how many allies does chuck hagel have in the senate? guest: when i worked in the senate there was often an occasion where you see senators walk-in, saw the other senators, walked up to them whether they are republican or democrat and started chatting in a collegial relationship. suggest there is anything wrong with this. others would keep their distance and spend more...
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chuck hagel has some of the problems that he does. keep in mind, he is as -- we said in intro, he is obama's choice, and, of course, republicans are going to object to him. there's a certain amount of partisan ranker. >> that's a problem, right? once it's completely obvious that they would try to block him because he is obama's choice, but this is not sfw that is traditionally done. we have a statistic somewhere here. do you know how many cabinet nominees have been rejected since 1789? 2%. >> wow. >> the understanding is when a president wants someone to be in his cabinet, you let the president have that person in his cabinet, but michael eric dyson, are we witnessing the dawn of a new era where everything the man wants to do is -- >> i teach hagel, marx, and freud, they're just great people. the reality is that chuck hagel is an independent-minded person. the republicans want your cake and eat it too. you want somebody who is independent and saying, look, i disagree. gently but forcefully. here's a man who has been full of integrity
chuck hagel has some of the problems that he does. keep in mind, he is as -- we said in intro, he is obama's choice, and, of course, republicans are going to object to him. there's a certain amount of partisan ranker. >> that's a problem, right? once it's completely obvious that they would try to block him because he is obama's choice, but this is not sfw that is traditionally done. we have a statistic somewhere here. do you know how many cabinet nominees have been rejected since 1789?...
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. >> reporter: hagel does have the most important supporter. >> i served with chuck hagel. i know him. he is a patriot. >> reporter: the president will have a fight on his hand with the nomination and among democrats his own party which controls the senate and confirmation process. one of the reasons the white house was telling senate democrats this nomination is coming, hoping to soften the blow. david kerley, abc news, the white house. >>> in other news this morning -- secretary of state hillary clinton is returning to work today for the first time in a month. of course, she was side lined by a stomach virus, concussion, and most recently a blood clot in her head that landed her in the hospital for three days. clinton's schedule includes nearly a dozen meetings this week. it's not clear when she will testified about the benghazi attack as she promised. of course, she will step down in a few weeks and senator john kerry expected to take over. >>> rare speech from syrian president bashar assad has drawn a quick and blunt reaction from the obama administration. a defiant ass
. >> reporter: hagel does have the most important supporter. >> i served with chuck hagel. i know him. he is a patriot. >> reporter: the president will have a fight on his hand with the nomination and among democrats his own party which controls the senate and confirmation process. one of the reasons the white house was telling senate democrats this nomination is coming, hoping to soften the blow. david kerley, abc news, the white house. >>> in other news this morning...
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and happy new year to you, as well. >> to you, too. >>> and from chuck hagel from the supporters of chuck hagel to opponents, bing west and hagel, both of them are combat vets but that is where the similarity ends. he's going to join us on the half hour on why he is opposed to chuck hagel for defense secretary. >>> if you got your paycheck on friday and you noticed it was a little smaller, thank the expired payroll tax holiday. guess what else is coming in 2013? higher prices for just about everything on the daily menu, the menu of life. christine romans is here to tell us not only what they are but what we can do about it. start with the grocery store. >> make a list, right? you hear that all the time. your grandmother did it. things are -- prices of things are rising. starts with corns and grains. remember the drought of last summer? also global demand. corn, corn feeds in to -- you use it to feed animals, right? use it to make cereal and snack foods and corn syrup and to feed animals so meat prices likely going to be up 3% to 4%. pay more for the hamburger and already seeing people sta
and happy new year to you, as well. >> to you, too. >>> and from chuck hagel from the supporters of chuck hagel to opponents, bing west and hagel, both of them are combat vets but that is where the similarity ends. he's going to join us on the half hour on why he is opposed to chuck hagel for defense secretary. >>> if you got your paycheck on friday and you noticed it was a little smaller, thank the expired payroll tax holiday. guess what else is coming in 2013? higher...
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hagel has a lot of opposition on the right. why does he want chuck hagel for the job? >> part of it now is a manhood thing. he can't be ruled second national security pick after susan was out there described as a presidential favorite, he went ahead and made a different choice for secretary of state going with john kerry. democrats are unhappy because of some of the gay comments, some of the democrats in the senate now didn't serve with him and so are on the fence. a top senate democratic official said to me, a path exists for him to be confirmed when you're with the president's party. but they say, he has a lot of explaining to do and the white house has a lot of work to do if republicans impose hagel enmasse. they can't count on the 51 democratic votes. >> this confirmation fight threatens because of the prominence of the job to become a big part of the january/february narrative, does this hurt the president moving forward? >> it certainly does. mark, on time.com, you make the point that he's likely to be confirmed if he does well in the hearings at great cost. the
hagel has a lot of opposition on the right. why does he want chuck hagel for the job? >> part of it now is a manhood thing. he can't be ruled second national security pick after susan was out there described as a presidential favorite, he went ahead and made a different choice for secretary of state going with john kerry. democrats are unhappy because of some of the gay comments, some of the democrats in the senate now didn't serve with him and so are on the fence. a top senate democratic...
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those people really like chuck hagel. there's other republicans who really hate chuck hagel. let this fight be between republicans i'm thinking is what barack obama is looking at. >> chuck hagel has managed to make people e iing jewish group rights groups. as he put it, i'm a united states senator. i'm not an israeli senator. he called a nominee for ambassador openly aggressively gay. he did apologize for that. that happened some time ago. and said he misspoke. but, perry, what do you think? how tough could this fight get? >> it's looking tough right now. you have some democrats who don't like the comments about gay rights and about israel. you have republicans who don't like his opposition to the iraq wars. you have people on both sides. you don't
those people really like chuck hagel. there's other republicans who really hate chuck hagel. let this fight be between republicans i'm thinking is what barack obama is looking at. >> chuck hagel has managed to make people e iing jewish group rights groups. as he put it, i'm a united states senator. i'm not an israeli senator. he called a nominee for ambassador openly aggressively gay. he did apologize for that. that happened some time ago. and said he misspoke. but, perry, what do you...
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a lot of republicans don't like chuck hagel. chuck hagel for years now has criticized the iraq war. he's criticized virtually every view john mccain has had about foreign policy. and john mccain's a leading figure in the republican party on foreign policy. so it's not surprising to me. what you have to see is how well the white house defends this pick. right now this is a pick that doesn't have a lot of friends on either side of the party. ultimately democrats are going to listen to what barack obama says about his own cabinet. another thing important to mention here is like matt was saying a bit is, take the john brennan pick. the john kerry pick. obama's trying to surround himself with people he really is friends with and likes. the first term was people like hillary clinton, jim jones, bob gates. they're big names. those aren't necessarily obama allies. brennan, hagel, kerry, susan rice, these are really people obama knows and is close to. that's what he's trying to build for his second term. >> i want to bring in congressman adam schiff, democrat from california. always good to
a lot of republicans don't like chuck hagel. chuck hagel for years now has criticized the iraq war. he's criticized virtually every view john mccain has had about foreign policy. and john mccain's a leading figure in the republican party on foreign policy. so it's not surprising to me. what you have to see is how well the white house defends this pick. right now this is a pick that doesn't have a lot of friends on either side of the party. ultimately democrats are going to listen to what barack...
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most republicans don't see chuck hagel as a stand-up guy anymore. and said the reason he's there, is they're asking republicans, nominal republicans to cut the defense budget, that's one thing to do in republican circles and that's why he's there. >> jon: have the politics of this choice been examined? if you want to fracture the republican senate the way you fractured the republican house with a the fiscal cliff vote you pick chuck hagel. >> it's interesting, and folks went off bill kristol, why he's doing this, and i felt that was manufactured. >> it's an interesting pick though because this would be typically obama's m-o to choose the republican he can get with to try to break apart the republicans in the congress. but the problem with hagel, he doesn't really have any senate allies on either side. he was a very prickly guy when he was in there he has no natural allies. what's interesting, which i don't think really has been covered, is the fact that he was picked because he ended up opposing the iraq war and voted for it and then turned on it. t
most republicans don't see chuck hagel as a stand-up guy anymore. and said the reason he's there, is they're asking republicans, nominal republicans to cut the defense budget, that's one thing to do in republican circles and that's why he's there. >> jon: have the politics of this choice been examined? if you want to fracture the republican senate the way you fractured the republican house with a the fiscal cliff vote you pick chuck hagel. >> it's interesting, and folks went off...
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big fans of chuck hagel. there was a time, joe made this point yesterday on the show, when chuck hagel's brand of republican reform policy and national security outlook was the mainstream of the party. he was vetted for vice president for -- by dick cheney for george w. bush in 2000. he was enough in the mainstream of republican thinking not that long ago, the last republican administration considered for the vice presidential slot. the party has moved far to the right. that's part of what's happened and chuck hagel has not moved with it. part of what's happening, some sense a lot of republicans talked about the israel question, a personal pique in the case of some people and john mccain may be one of them. >> really? >> joe made that point yesterday. there's some people in washington who personally don't like chuck hagel. they may actually like him personally but he rubbed some people the wrong way in the course of doing politics in d.c. what do you think is going on here with someone like senator mccain say
big fans of chuck hagel. there was a time, joe made this point yesterday on the show, when chuck hagel's brand of republican reform policy and national security outlook was the mainstream of the party. he was vetted for vice president for -- by dick cheney for george w. bush in 2000. he was enough in the mainstream of republican thinking not that long ago, the last republican administration considered for the vice presidential slot. the party has moved far to the right. that's part of what's...
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senator chuck hagel. in four hours, president obama is expected to name hagel as his choice for defense secretary. that nomination could be bruising. hagel is known for being fiercely independent and the loudest outcry could come from hagel's own fellow republicans. they say he's the wrong choice to oversee the military. the combat veteran, who was badly wounded in vietnam, is openly wary of armed conflict. >> the pain, and we didn't have any medics there with us, and we did have some guys, again, that i think were in pretty bad shape. the morphine and everything was used for them. >> you know, if i ever get out of all this, i am going to do everything i can to assure that war is a last resort. that we, a nation, a people, calls upon to settle a dispute. the horror of it, the pain of it, the suffering of it. >> hagel won two purple hearts for his service in vietnam. he also saved the life of his brother, who was fighting alongside him. hagel has also long called for cuts in defense spending. national corr
senator chuck hagel. in four hours, president obama is expected to name hagel as his choice for defense secretary. that nomination could be bruising. hagel is known for being fiercely independent and the loudest outcry could come from hagel's own fellow republicans. they say he's the wrong choice to oversee the military. the combat veteran, who was badly wounded in vietnam, is openly wary of armed conflict. >> the pain, and we didn't have any medics there with us, and we did have some...
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republican senator lindsey graham is no fan of chuck hagel. >> chuck hagel, if confirmed to be secretary of defense, would be the most an tag aning to antagonistic. he has said not only must we negotiate with hamas this is an in your face nomination to all of us who are supportive of israel. >> anti-hagel television ads are now airing. >> while president obama says all options are on the table for prevent ago nuclear iran, hagel says military action is not a viable, feasible responsible option. president obama, secretary of defense chuck hagel is not a responsible option. >> question. would president obama have nominated hagel if president obama truly believed that hagel was anti-israel? pat. >> no, he would not. and hagel is not anti-israel. what he is, he puts his own country first, and he's tired of these resolutions the israeli lobby brings up and tells him to sign on. this is a gay, john, who has fought for his country and bled for his country and puts his own country first. he does believe in this. like nixon, like ike, like reagan, like bush i, he believes in talking to our advers
republican senator lindsey graham is no fan of chuck hagel. >> chuck hagel, if confirmed to be secretary of defense, would be the most an tag aning to antagonistic. he has said not only must we negotiate with hamas this is an in your face nomination to all of us who are supportive of israel. >> anti-hagel television ads are now airing. >> while president obama says all options are on the table for prevent ago nuclear iran, hagel says military action is not a viable, feasible...
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chuck hagel's was one of those votes. and when it came to the bigger issue of iran sanctions on the senate floor, chuck hagel, again, one of only two senators of the entire u.s. senate to vote against iran sanctions, with so many dictators-- >> i'm sorry, i didn't mean to interrupt you, but if i may, let's talk about the point of israel, what has been your concern with senator hagel on that issue. >> well, there was a letter circulated in the united states senate overwhelmingly, a high number of senators signed the letter, expressing something as simple as solidarity with the democratic jewish state of israel, our salad ally. chuck hagel refused to sign a letter expressing solidarity with israel and what we have seen is that he favors engagement with syria's al-assad, with il when he was alive and also, with all of the dictators who seek to harm u.s. interests and our allies. he wants further engagement with them. he doesn't think that we should penalize those dictators and that harms u.s. national security interests. >>
chuck hagel's was one of those votes. and when it came to the bigger issue of iran sanctions on the senate floor, chuck hagel, again, one of only two senators of the entire u.s. senate to vote against iran sanctions, with so many dictators-- >> i'm sorry, i didn't mean to interrupt you, but if i may, let's talk about the point of israel, what has been your concern with senator hagel on that issue. >> well, there was a letter circulated in the united states senate overwhelmingly, a...
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. >>> good morning, brace yourself for the next fight in washington, making chuck hagel secretary of defense. even a few top democrats are less than enthusiastic. >> i want him to get an explanation about his position in regards to iran. he has been very reluctant to support tough sanctions against iran. iran is an extremely dangerous country. this is president obama's choice, it's not who i would prefer to see as secretary of defense. >> now even before president obama made the announcement, a handful of republicans came out strongly against hagel. >> he's profoundly wrong on a number of the most important national security issues that face our country today like denying iran nuclear weapons, like direct face to face negotiations with state department designated terrorists organizations like hamas, and calming into question our commitment to our principleal l ally in the middle east, israel. >>> trying to not just score board win after a couple of losses, including the fiscal cliff deal. this fight already looks like a campaign, complete with ads. >> president obama, for secretary o
. >>> good morning, brace yourself for the next fight in washington, making chuck hagel secretary of defense. even a few top democrats are less than enthusiastic. >> i want him to get an explanation about his position in regards to iran. he has been very reluctant to support tough sanctions against iran. iran is an extremely dangerous country. this is president obama's choice, it's not who i would prefer to see as secretary of defense. >> now even before president obama...
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. >> chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. >> president obama nominates chuck hagel as defense secretary, and conservatives are fuming. >> positions that he has taken over the years will be, i think very much a matter of discussion. >> this is an in-your-face nomination by the president. >> if hagel is nominated, it is very difficult to imagine circumstance in which i could support his confirmation. >> admiral joe sestak and richard wolffe are here on the road to confirmation and what this could mean for defense cuts. >>> republicans are coming out for the government shutdown. >> you think that's a good idea? >> yes, i do. >> you really do? >> yes. >> john nichols on their backwards reasoning. >>> mcdonnell doesn't mind another hostage situation for the deficit, at the expense of the most vulnerable. david cay johnston lays out the gop fabricated spending problem ahead. >>> the opposition on gun control reaches heated extremes. >> i don't think the federal government has any business having a list of
. >> chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. >> president obama nominates chuck hagel as defense secretary, and conservatives are fuming. >> positions that he has taken over the years will be, i think very much a matter of discussion. >> this is an in-your-face nomination by the president. >> if hagel is nominated, it is very difficult to imagine circumstance in which i could support his confirmation. >> admiral joe...
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let's take a listen. >> chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. he enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. to this day he bears the scars and shrapnel for battles he fought in our name. we see a decorated combat veteran of character and strength. they see one of their own. most importantly, chuck knows war is not an abstraction. he understands that sending young americans to fight and bleed in the dirt and mud, that's something we only do when it's absolutely necessary. >> well, senator hagel paid tribute to the men and women in uniform at the announcement today. let's listen to the nominee himself. >> mr. president, i am grateful for this opportunity to serve our country again and especially its men and women in uniform and their families. these are people that give so much to this nation every day with such dignity and selflessness. this is particularly important at a time as we complete our mission in afghanistan and support the troops and military families who have sacrificed so much over more than a decade
let's take a listen. >> chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. he enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. to this day he bears the scars and shrapnel for battles he fought in our name. we see a decorated combat veteran of character and strength. they see one of their own. most importantly, chuck knows war is not an abstraction. he understands that sending young americans to fight and bleed in the dirt and mud, that's something we only do...
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chuck hagel endorsed mr. obama in '08, and it is always so transparent, and i just don't think they can quit each other. and i'm sorry to be such a jerk about it. but they are just such jerks. and we have got to get -- why are these people still being interviewed on these sunday shows? >> stephanie: you are absolutely right. they are always very troubling. [ suspense music ] >> stephanie: he was not troubling during the bush administration, but now he is very troubling. >> he's trouble. [♪ mysterious music ♪] >> stephanie: clearly he is. >> trouble in river city. >> stephanie: right? >> yes. >> stephanie: totally. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: we played a little donald trump in right-wing world. a warning has been issued to donald trump. he said we live in a country where you can say anything you want as long as you don't harm anyone. but i think his personal life will corrupt what he does on the show. if he becomes somewhat hurtful, we'll figure out what to do with that? oh, now? >>
chuck hagel endorsed mr. obama in '08, and it is always so transparent, and i just don't think they can quit each other. and i'm sorry to be such a jerk about it. but they are just such jerks. and we have got to get -- why are these people still being interviewed on these sunday shows? >> stephanie: you are absolutely right. they are always very troubling. [ suspense music ] >> stephanie: he was not troubling during the bush administration, but now he is very troubling. >>...
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vigorously against former republican colleague of chuck hagel's. how lives are going to change for men and women of the pentagon and how committed chuck hagel is. so she wants to know even though some of the gay activists and some of the interest groups human rights campaign have said that they accept his apology for what he said 14 years ago. >> well, so andrea, i would say that, first of all, i agree with chuck, and i think that what matters here is that the confirmation hearing, i think, may actually matter for chuck hagel. both in terms of the point chuck made, which is that if there is something sort of that we don't know that comes out, this is not a nominee who can probably with stand something like that. i think it's important that chuck schumer, tammy baldwin, normally if nominees fail, whether it's for supreme court or cabinet decisions, they fail in terms of confirmation because the sort of old party of the president pulls back. with harriet myers it was the uprising amongst conservatives that really doomed her. it seems to me john corny
vigorously against former republican colleague of chuck hagel's. how lives are going to change for men and women of the pentagon and how committed chuck hagel is. so she wants to know even though some of the gay activists and some of the interest groups human rights campaign have said that they accept his apology for what he said 14 years ago. >> well, so andrea, i would say that, first of all, i agree with chuck, and i think that what matters here is that the confirmation hearing, i...
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being a former senator doesn't mean chuck hagel knows all the folks in the upper chamber. two out of five weren't even there when he was. will his meet and greet help ward off the threat of defeat for his nomination to run the pentagon? and three is a magic number. it' it's the "the daily rundown"'s third anniversary. some surprises along the way. good morning from washington. it's friday, january 11th, 2013. this is "the daily rundown," i'm chuck todd. boy, three years? a different part, huh? let's get to my first reads of the morning. vice president biden will present his recommendations on gun violence to the president tuesday. white house officials say an assault weapons ban will still be an element of whatever final package is proposed, despite reporting to the contrary this morning. and while in a 15-minute statement for cameras yesterday, biden emphasized an emerging consensus around a set of what he called gun safety proposals. he did not mention the assault weapons ban idea once. >> there is a surprising -- so far, a surprising recurrence of suggests that we have
being a former senator doesn't mean chuck hagel knows all the folks in the upper chamber. two out of five weren't even there when he was. will his meet and greet help ward off the threat of defeat for his nomination to run the pentagon? and three is a magic number. it' it's the "the daily rundown"'s third anniversary. some surprises along the way. good morning from washington. it's friday, january 11th, 2013. this is "the daily rundown," i'm chuck todd. boy, three years? a...
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hagel, republicans versus republicans over chuck hagel is i will lustrative of what's wrong with the republican party. colin powell again. >> i think what the republican party needs to do now is take a hard look at its self and understand that the country has changed. the country is changing demographically. if the republican party does not change along with the demographic, they are going to be in trouble. >> bill: one other thing that colin powell said that's wrong with the republican party, not only this inability to keep up with changing times, if you will, but they are still carrying around to many of them, a strong breed of intel intelrance. >> there is also a dark a dark vein of intolerance in some parts of the party. what do i mean by that? what i mean by that is: they still sort of look down on minorities. >> so this battle over chuck hagle, eric, is really a battle for the heart and soul of the republican party. isn't it? >> you know, i don't think there is any question that at this point, every battle these guys are fighting, you know in a way is a battle for the heart and
hagel, republicans versus republicans over chuck hagel is i will lustrative of what's wrong with the republican party. colin powell again. >> i think what the republican party needs to do now is take a hard look at its self and understand that the country has changed. the country is changing demographically. if the republican party does not change along with the demographic, they are going to be in trouble. >> bill: one other thing that colin powell said that's wrong with the...
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as i said, chuck hagel, we love him. we know him. >> a nice guy. >> the foreign policy community knows him and loves him. he is -- he's straight in the mainstream of u.s. foreign policy. but when he was on the hill, he had really sharp elbows. i didn't like him when he was on the hill. i like him now. now that i got to know him outside -- but he didn't -- he did not play well in that sandbox. >> i think he has the talents you're talking about. let's look at this resentment, heilmann and then take it to ben. we have to pull a sound bite from lindsey graham accusing him of not being mainstream to try and sum up this resentment. tell me what this resentment is. who is it? by whom? what's the problem? list them for me. >> will you please stop interrupting him? >> i want to hear the names. >> and just let him talk. >> graham, maybe mcconnell, maybe. >> the guy who screwed up earlier this morning. that was horrible. >> to me it comes down to two words. >> let mihim talk. this makes me sad. >> he gave appear interview in 2006 i
as i said, chuck hagel, we love him. we know him. >> a nice guy. >> the foreign policy community knows him and loves him. he is -- he's straight in the mainstream of u.s. foreign policy. but when he was on the hill, he had really sharp elbows. i didn't like him when he was on the hill. i like him now. now that i got to know him outside -- but he didn't -- he did not play well in that sandbox. >> i think he has the talents you're talking about. let's look at this resentment,...
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hagel's friend and he said chuck hagel has the experience. he does have the experience to run a large organization, ie the department of defense. here's what he told wolf. >> he saved the uso from bankruptcy. was the president in 1989 to 1990. he's a businessman and run other large organizations very successfully. he has -- he's one of the bluntest people i know. blunt may not always be great, but he's very blunt. he's very fair. he's judicious. he's unsentimental in the sense that he doesn't let emotion get the best of him. he calculates what is i think in the best interests of the organization he's running. >> so perhaps his willingness to speak up candidly, bluntly, may not be a bad thing, so says this long time friend of the senator's. you disagree? >> i disagree only the sense i don't really understand under what circumstances he would do this. being secretary of defense means two things. it means heading a vast defense establishment and bureaucracy. something that chuck hagel has never done. also means dealing with congress and senator
hagel's friend and he said chuck hagel has the experience. he does have the experience to run a large organization, ie the department of defense. here's what he told wolf. >> he saved the uso from bankruptcy. was the president in 1989 to 1990. he's a businessman and run other large organizations very successfully. he has -- he's one of the bluntest people i know. blunt may not always be great, but he's very blunt. he's very fair. he's judicious. he's unsentimental in the sense that he...
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the senate has rejected only nine cabinet nominees to will chuck hagel be the 10th? >> i don't think so. i thought he would have an easier time that he has, but when all is said and done, there are lots of people from the bush administration, high-visibility people -- npr on friday morning , one spoke extreme in the -- extremely well of hagel but the way that republicans are approaching cabinet appointments at the moment is different from what we've seen and the past. i am not sure whether it is a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing, and they will have their day in the sun, or whether they are serious about this. if they are, then harry reid has a proposal to change the rules and the senate and it might -- there are a few democrats who might have reservations about it. >> will take a week confirmed, evan -- chuck hagel be confirmed, evan? >> i think he will. he has a proud guy, but he doesn't like to be muzzled. he has a sort of assertive, ornery side to him, and in tough confirmation hearings, that can be trouble. >> in times of partisanship to where the lines
the senate has rejected only nine cabinet nominees to will chuck hagel be the 10th? >> i don't think so. i thought he would have an easier time that he has, but when all is said and done, there are lots of people from the bush administration, high-visibility people -- npr on friday morning , one spoke extreme in the -- extremely well of hagel but the way that republicans are approaching cabinet appointments at the moment is different from what we've seen and the past. i am not sure...
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>> martin, look, president obama would not have nominated chuck hagel if chuck hagel was not in line with him on this particular issue and on the president's policy descriptions for the pentagon. so i am not worried about chuck hagel, about what he said 15 years ago, especially since he has since apologized and has made affirmative statements. >> yes, he has, indeed. now, john, john brennan has 25 years of service at the cia. he's expected to be questioned rigorously on the issue of torture or enhanced interrogation techniques as they're known by some. does this present mr. brennan with some real challenge given his oversight of enhanced interrogation techniques under the previous administration? >> well, i mean, since he was there in the previous administration, if the senate wants to ask him those questions, then, yes, they will provide some discomfort for him, but remember when president obama came into office, it was he who said we are no longer doing this. this is not who we are as a country, and so if the senate wants to litigate past battles that even the president of the unit
>> martin, look, president obama would not have nominated chuck hagel if chuck hagel was not in line with him on this particular issue and on the president's policy descriptions for the pentagon. so i am not worried about chuck hagel, about what he said 15 years ago, especially since he has since apologized and has made affirmative statements. >> yes, he has, indeed. now, john, john brennan has 25 years of service at the cia. he's expected to be questioned rigorously on the issue of...
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well, that proposition can be tested by the history of chuck hagel. what was the most important decisions he had to make as a senator? on the iraq war. he reported to have been opponent of the war. after the war went bad and public opinion had turned against it. on the crucial decision of launching the war at a time when the future is indeterminant and time information is necessarily incomplete, he voted to go to war. then when he had the second most important decision on the surge which saved the war and created the conditions where iraq, where we could leave iraq with a democratically elected politically neutral state, he has showed was against it. he led the fight against it. he said that it was morally, strategically wrong. so big decisions he had to exercise as senator, he had it wrong by his own rights on every single count. >> bret: as we have done here. we have taken a lot of time on the hagel nomination. brennan nomination is up, too. steve, perhaps the hagel nomination overtakes that and brennan doesn't face as much scrutiny if it was solo,
well, that proposition can be tested by the history of chuck hagel. what was the most important decisions he had to make as a senator? on the iraq war. he reported to have been opponent of the war. after the war went bad and public opinion had turned against it. on the crucial decision of launching the war at a time when the future is indeterminant and time information is necessarily incomplete, he voted to go to war. then when he had the second most important decision on the surge which saved...
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chuck hagel was a republican, is a republican and has diversity. give him time to fill out the staff and as i want to keep coming back to is this election was fought over the issues that are important to america. and women clearly saw that this is a president that will fight for, affirm and advance. >> i want to get back to the for, affirm and advance. >> i [ male announcer ]o the i've seen incredible things. otherworldly things. but there are some things i've never seen before. this ge jet engine can understand 5,000 data samples per second. which is good for business. because planes use less fuel, spend less time on the ground and more time in the air. suddenly, faraway places don't seem so...far away. ♪ we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated support teams help you know more so your money can do more. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our teams have the information you want when yo
chuck hagel was a republican, is a republican and has diversity. give him time to fill out the staff and as i want to keep coming back to is this election was fought over the issues that are important to america. and women clearly saw that this is a president that will fight for, affirm and advance. >> i want to get back to the for, affirm and advance. >> i [ male announcer ]o the i've seen incredible things. otherworldly things. but there are some things i've never seen before....
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what do you think of chuck hagel? >> i said it earlier in the break, if he's upset the left and the right, perhaps he's doing something right. for me, i think the confirmation process is going to be very important. i think that his stance on iran and israel needs to be flushed out. to me, even as a moderate republican, he's still perhaps a little bit too much of an appeaser and doesn't make us stronger or weaker. i this i it's going to be a very spirited confirmation process. i think it's going to be great theater. there's no doubt about that. but in the end, i think he's going to get it. >> explain to me why mitch mcconnell, who not long ago was saying hagel is one of the premier foreign policy voices and one of the giants in the united states senate. he stands with him philosophically 90% of the time. he's an indispensable member of the republican team. that was then. now he says, he'll be given a fair hearing, and you have john mccain saying, to allege that hagel is somehow a republican, that's a hard one to swallo
what do you think of chuck hagel? >> i said it earlier in the break, if he's upset the left and the right, perhaps he's doing something right. for me, i think the confirmation process is going to be very important. i think that his stance on iran and israel needs to be flushed out. to me, even as a moderate republican, he's still perhaps a little bit too much of an appeaser and doesn't make us stronger or weaker. i this i it's going to be a very spirited confirmation process. i think it's...
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with chuck hagel. list the criteria that a secretary of defense should have, especially if you're a republican. chuck is a republican. chuck hagel has it. how can they even say that they have reservations about chuck hagel or what are their reservations? >> john mccain made the statement, i don't want to overquote him but paraphrasing, it is a stretch to call chuck hagel a republican. republicans say despite the vote that occurred since he left the senate he has been a republican in name only. he hasn't really stayed with the party line. if you look back as recently as this last election cycle, he endorsed bob kerrey, a democrat over deb fischer, a republican in that senate race. most of the ire and scrutiny coming from republicans when it comes to chuck hagel. views in the middle east. on iran, on israel. that is the point that many of these -- many of these republican senators including many who sat on the senate armed services committee simply will not back away from. >> as far as -- you deal with a
with chuck hagel. list the criteria that a secretary of defense should have, especially if you're a republican. chuck is a republican. chuck hagel has it. how can they even say that they have reservations about chuck hagel or what are their reservations? >> john mccain made the statement, i don't want to overquote him but paraphrasing, it is a stretch to call chuck hagel a republican. republicans say despite the vote that occurred since he left the senate he has been a republican in name...
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i like chuck hagel. if he gets it, i'm fine with it. >> suppose your guy won the race the guy you thought would win. and he put boldin in, the strange mustache guy. would they have put him in there? >> i don't think romney would have put bolton in. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. that's behind us. that turkey's behind us. >> we got others. >> we have lived through bill clinton. whatever you say about bill clinton, he knew how to deal with these people saying shut down the government. go ahead. i'll have my pizza. you go ahead. >> he'll have other things. >> whatever else you say. what happened? newt looked like a fool. he looked like a fool. so can this president show that kind of guts? first you because you're for him. >> well, i think we're going to see the debt ceiling fight first. >> that's what i mean. >> he feels so passionately -- >> will he tell them to go guest lost? >> in the book i had out last year -- >> what's the name of the book? >> "showdown." the first time he got in his aides said
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. >>> folks news in just a few hours president obama will nominate former senator chuck hagel. it has been met with strong criticism including from hagel's own party. good morning jennifer. >> what has republicans and democrats up in arms are remarks hagel made when he was in the senate about israel. in a 2006 interview with aaron david miller hagel said the following, the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people here. i am not an israeli senator i am a u.s. senator. hagel favored direct talks with iran and is one of two senators to vote against sanking iran. many are questioning the president's choice. >> chuck hagel if confirmed to be secretary of defense would be the most antagonistic secretary of defense toward the state of israel in our nation's history. not only has he said you should directly negotiate with iran sanctions won't work that it is negotiating hamas which is an organization terrorist group that lobbed thousands of rockettes into israel. >> his defenders point to his two purple hearts in vietnam. >> chuck hague elt is a tremendous patriot served incred before
. >>> folks news in just a few hours president obama will nominate former senator chuck hagel. it has been met with strong criticism including from hagel's own party. good morning jennifer. >> what has republicans and democrats up in arms are remarks hagel made when he was in the senate about israel. in a 2006 interview with aaron david miller hagel said the following, the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people here. i am not an israeli senator i am a u.s. senator. hagel...
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chuck hagel is a leader our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. he served with honor alongside his own brother. when he was hit by shrapnel his brother saved him. when his brother was injured by a mine, he risked his life to pull him to safety. he bears the scars from battles but in our name. -- fought in our name. this would be historic. he would be the first person of enlisted rank to serve as the secretary of defense. one of the few secretaries to have been wounded in war. the first vietnam veteran to lead the department. chuck hagel will give our troops that character and strength. they see one of their own. he is a champion and our troops and military family. as a leader at the va, he fought to give our veterans the benefits they deserve. as the head of the uso, he devoted himself to caring for our troops. he helped to lead the fight for the post-9/11 gi bill. his helping today's returning heroes get their education. he knows our armed forces collect and depend on good intelligence. he recogni
chuck hagel is a leader our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. he served with honor alongside his own brother. when he was hit by shrapnel his brother saved him. when his brother was injured by a mine, he risked his life to pull him to safety. he bears the scars from battles but in our name. -- fought in our name. this would be historic. he would be the first person of enlisted rank to serve as the secretary of defense. one of the few...
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chuck hagel gets cyberwarfare. he understands that a foreign country like china can shut down our weapons, can shut down our electrical grid, can shut down our water grid. and he knows that that is the battlefield of the future. and that's where we've got to spend our money. >> but there will be a fight, obviously, in part, because hagel makes a lot of republican hawks shudder with some of his comments. what do you think is at the heart of the opposition? it most political, roger, or philosophical? >> it's a little of both. there are hawks, in the senate, clearly. there are people who are upset with hagel because he doesn't even know he is a decorated vietnam vet and would be the first enlisted man ever to become secretary of defense. they don't think he's hawkish enough. some are upset about his past statements about israel. some are upset about this past statements about gays in the military, for which he has apologized. and you know, i think this controversy over cabinet appointments is good. because america lea
chuck hagel gets cyberwarfare. he understands that a foreign country like china can shut down our weapons, can shut down our electrical grid, can shut down our water grid. and he knows that that is the battlefield of the future. and that's where we've got to spend our money. >> but there will be a fight, obviously, in part, because hagel makes a lot of republican hawks shudder with some of his comments. what do you think is at the heart of the opposition? it most political, roger, or...
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. >> chuck hagel. big discussions. unlike with susan rice where she hung fire for weeks and was dropped, or she dropped herself, this time he stuck with hagel after all the heat against him on -- some from the gays and the left and the neo-cons and where is he heading? put a guy out there in your face as howard said? >> he thinks that he can win. first of all it wouldn't look good if he backed down after what happened to susan rice and i think he thinks he can win this. and there are certain things about chuck hagel's resume that set with what he wants to do with defense. cutting defense spending, that sort of thing. it makes sense so he's going to stick with his pick. chris: is hagel, barack obama with a war record, is he really the guy that -- that obama has been hiding, more liberal on foreign policy? >> i believe that's right and he wouldn't have picked him in the second term unless he thought they were in sync on the larger philosophy of what they want. for the american force in the world. chris: a real statement
. >> chuck hagel. big discussions. unlike with susan rice where she hung fire for weeks and was dropped, or she dropped herself, this time he stuck with hagel after all the heat against him on -- some from the gays and the left and the neo-cons and where is he heading? put a guy out there in your face as howard said? >> he thinks that he can win. first of all it wouldn't look good if he backed down after what happened to susan rice and i think he thinks he can win this. and there...
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i am a fan of chuck hagel as a human being. politically we couldn't be more different than on two or three issues. as a human being i'm a big fan of him when he first went off off the reservation on the iraq war. obviously his biggest opposition will be the bureaucratic inertia in the pentagon. it's an enormous place. it's fueled by the defense industries more than the actual military themselves. and that revolving door between the upper levels of the military and defense contractors. one thing you will get from chuck hagel, you will get a concern for the men and women on the ground. that will be the most important part of having chuck hagel as a secretary of defense. he's the first infantry grunt to hold that job and i remembers what it's like. if there are think-tank cowboys who think they're going to go to the president and try to sell him on a war they'll have someone pushing back really hard and they'll have to kick down the doors. >> jennifer: i love that about him. it's the most salient quality about someone who is going
i am a fan of chuck hagel as a human being. politically we couldn't be more different than on two or three issues. as a human being i'm a big fan of him when he first went off off the reservation on the iraq war. obviously his biggest opposition will be the bureaucratic inertia in the pentagon. it's an enormous place. it's fueled by the defense industries more than the actual military themselves. and that revolving door between the upper levels of the military and defense contractors. one thing...